a : an act of revealing or communicating divine truth
b : something that is revealed by God to humans
b : something that is revealed by God to humans
In
a religious context be it Jewish, Muslim, or Islam all of their beliefs
are based entirely on a person or persons claim to have had a divine
encounter with a god or supernatural deity. For the purpose of this post
I will not be quoting from the Koran since I have not read it but the
premise is the same for all three religions.
In
the Old Testament we are told that Yahweh revealed himself to Moses by
way of a burning bush. Traditionally it was believed that Moses was also
the sole author of the Pentateuch also known as the first five books of
Moses. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy were all
believed to have been revealed to and written by Moses himself. Recent
scholarship has come to believe that in fact this is not the case. There
are some tell tale signs in the Pentateuch that make the authorship of
Moses quite improbable.
5And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. 6He buried him
in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. 7Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. Deuteronomy 34:5-7
Evidently
the first problem that this text presents is that Moses could not be
writing about his death after the fact. So obviously whoever wrote this
was not Moses.
10Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face, 11who did all those signs and wonders the Lord sent him to do in Egypt—to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. 12For no one has ever shown the mighty power or performed the awesome deeds that Moses did in the sight of all Israel. Deuteronomy 34:10-12
This
second passage relates some things about Moses in retrospect. As if the
author were narrating a tale about something that happened in the near
or distant past. I vote for distant past since in the beginning of verse
ten the author says "Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like
Moses." This tells me that he is relating a story about something that
happened a long time ago. He might have not even been a witness to this
and much like the rest of the scriptures he was basing his tales on oral
tradition/hearsay.
The scriptures themselves don't deny that they are based entirely on revelation.
The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed
belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the
words of this law. Deuteronomy 29:29
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 2 Timothy 3:16
"But admitting, for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed
to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is
revelation to that person only. When he tells it to a second person, a
second to a third, a third to a fourth, and so on, it ceases to be a
revelation to all those persons. It is revelation to the first person
only, and hearsay to every other, and consequently they are not obliged
to believe it." Thomas Paine 'The Age of Reason' 1794
Thomas Paine: a truly legendary thinker way ahead of his time!
Above
is my favorite Thomas Paine quote of all time. It is very clear from
this logical analyses that revelation is not a valid means of obtaining
knowledge. Believing and accepting that someone else had a revelation
does not make it true and in fact it is not a direct revelation to you
because you believe it. Once you hear it from the claimant it becomes
hearsay since you were not there yourself to experience the so called
revelation first hand.
1. Unverified information heard or received from another; rumor.
An oral tradition is the manner in which information is passed from one
generation to the next in the absence of writing or a recording medium.
Based
on the definitions of the words hearsay and oral tradition the Bible
and any other holy text from the past fall under these categories. They
are entirely based on oral tradition which is basically a form of
traditional story telling to help preserve ones cultural beliefs
throughout the ages before they had the abilities or the resources to
preserve those tales in writing.
Native American Story telling.
One
of the most common and well known examples of oral traditions is that
of the Native Americans. As with the Bible their stories are full of
fantastical tales of men springing forth from the ground full grown.
They speak of their ancestors as protectors of their people and of their
spirit guides usually believed to be some animal that represents power
or wisdom that they eventually encounter through drug induced
meditations. Just because an oral tradition has been passed down for
hundreds or even thousands of years amongst a people does not make them
entirely true. Many of these stories are meant to be taken symbolically
or as allegories that reflect some truths. Others are highly embellished
tales about some older original tale.
a : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice or a social custom)
b : a belief or story or a body of beliefs or stories relating to the past that are commonly accepted as historical though not verifiable
b : a belief or story or a body of beliefs or stories relating to the past that are commonly accepted as historical though not verifiable
In
the definition of tradition it is interesting to see that it relates
tradition with inheritance. Religious beliefs and practices in general
are for the most part even today inherited. It is because of this that
they are usually taken as truths without any real research. In the end
despite what many believe regarding the Bible it fits the descriptions
of everything I have outlined in this post.
The
Bible is entirely based on hearsay since the stories were not written
by first hand witnesses of the tales that they tell. The stories were
passed down from generation to generation through oral transmission. The
veracity of those tales are never questioned and in fact at this point
in time are impossible to verify. Many of the stories are interpreted as
literal, allegorical, or through parables as a means to convey some
lessons of moral or historical value. In other words these stories as is
witnessed for the most part by the Jewish community help form many or
most of the religious practices, customs, and beliefs of a society.
Once
you realize that the bible is nothing but a book of ancient customs,
traditions, and beliefs of a people you can appreciate it better. But
trying to translate those customs, traditions, or beliefs to our modern
day culture and society through wrongly interpreting them as literal and
universal will always lead in the end to failure and false beliefs.
It's time that we leave myths and superstitions where they belong; in
the past. Science trumps religions because science unlike religions
demands evidence and when evidence is not conclusive science continues
to search not accepting assumptions. The scientific method is self
correcting and helps to minimize errors in ones research and analyses by
involving peer review and confirmation of your findings.
Note:
all biblical citations are taken from the New International Translation
other word definitions are linked to their individual sources.
Mormonism is based on revelation, too, but during a literate time. If it weren't for the long tradition of believing revelations, Joseph Smith wouldn't have had a chance of starting a new religion.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely true LadyA. What's ironic is that Mormonisms foundation is contrary to what the bible teaches about the teachings of Jesus.
Delete6"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!" Galatians 1:6-9
So much for the foundation of Mormonism and his new revelation which coincidentally came from an angel named Moroni.
Its as if when something is written in a book it makes it real. But then you point out the case of superman or harry potter and theists say its not the same.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Koran, Muslims like to say it has never changed. Well except for the whole Sunni and Shia Muslim interpretations.
Christianity is exempt from its obvious textual and doctrinal flaws. Theists only see things through the lense of their faith. Confirmation bias is their master not reason.
DeleteIt is so funny to read all your articles! You have written as though God is going to lose everything by you debunking Christianity!!
ReplyDeleteWhy are you trying to defend yourself against something that you believe doesn't exist?
If you are an atheist and don't have the need to evangelizewhy do atheists want to propagate atheism by all means by internet, television ministry and so on?
Why cant you live and die as an atheist all by yourself? Why do you want a crowd to support you in your atheism? Isn't it because you are scared of God and need a moral support?
What if the cellphone and all the gadgets which you have created for your convenience started to turn against you and mind control you and hand twist you? Wont you simply destroy them! Isnt that why you create all these gadgets with limited capabilities? YET PEOPLE WHO ARE CREATED BY GOD (WITH LIMITED MIND MAY BE FOR THE RESONS STATED ABOVE) TRY TO MIND CONTROL AND HAND TWIST GOD AND THINK THEY CAN DEBUNK HIM!! WHO WINS OR LOSSES WE WILL KNOW IN FEW YEARS TIME :-)
Why do you think people should trust in your reasoning when you are just another human being like myself. Today your brain is functioning tomorrow we don't know. The things that seemed mindboggling years ago have become inconspicuous now! Two scientists cannot agree on even simple things starting from a simple diet to a medical diagnosis. How do you think they will be able to decipher anything about the universe? How do you know that they are saying the truth because most of them confess their fraud only in their death beds)
Atleast Bible and Christianity have survived against all odds for well over two thousand years. People and countries which followed it never lagged behind. Thats why my country and other countries like China have started to value it. And you know what I mean :-)
If God had not created man with a freewill and created men like robots and if men still lived in the Eden Garden. Even there there will be people like you who would question why man was not given a free will and blah blah?
I think the problem with western Christianity is that most of them are Christians because of hear say from their parents or the Church, and never got to experience God for themselves. When they look at spiritual things through their eyes of disbelief everything looks so dazed just like seeing the world through a pink or green tinted glass!
What will you say about the real tangible life saving, healing encounters people had of God! Most of them never heard about Christianity or hated Christianity when they heard it! But GOD REACHED OUT TO THEM WHEN SCIENCE AND REASONS FAILED!
You may try to debunk Christianity from hearsay believers like you but never be able to take away Jesus from these people! I have not included Westerners' experiences because usually people try to explain it away saying that because they heard about Jesus for long it got osmosed through their dreams. These are people who never knew about Jesus or those like yourself who hated Jesus!
The true story of Gulshan Esther, a Pakistani muslim who was crippled from birth and healed by Jesus!
http://www.oocities.org/yahwehcalls/pdf/TheTornVeil.pdf
Paravasthu Surya Narayana Rao is a descendant of the well-known and famous 17th century Paravasthu koormaya swamigal of Andhra Pradesh, India. He was ordained in 1965 as the chief archakar (Priest) of a famous temple. Do you think he was a fool to come out of a royal life of being worshipped as a god to follow Jesus for nothing? Please read about his life through the following link!
ephesians-511.net/docs/TESTIMONY_OF_A_FORMER_HINDU-29.doc
Life story of Sadhu Sundar Singh
http://gloryofhiscross.org/apostle1.HTM
The following is the link of a very compelling book written by Rabindranath Maharaj, son of Chandrabhan Ragbir Sharma Mahabir Maharaj who attained Samadhi doing rigorous yogic practices!
http://hewhohasearslethimhear.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/death-of-a-guru/
Life story of Mohan C. Lazarus
http://www.jesusredeems.com/Moha
Thanks for your comments but I am not trying to debunk Christianity. I have lived as a Christian and have preached the gospel as a Pentecosal evangelist for four years before I accepted atheism. I did not leave my former beliefs nor did I do so lightly. It took me six years to rid myself of the influence of Christianity entirely from my life and my way of thinking.
DeleteThere are atheists or even believers who are doubtful about their beliefs and have no resources to turn to for them to help make sense of the nonsense they believed. That is the purpose of this blog first and foremost. Regarding scientists not being in agreement about certain things it comes as no surprise because unlike religion science does not claim absolute truth.
Science follows the evidence wherever it may lead and is always open to change based on better hypotheses and theories supported by better evidence.
Christianity like Islam is not as uniform as you claim it to be. In fact, there are over 35,000 Christian sects worldwide and they all disagree on doctrine, biblical exegesis etc.
Finally, I don't waste my time reading books about people claiming to having been healed by Jesus. Christianity in particular is full of blatant lies and false testimonies not to mention misdiagnoses interpreted later as miraculous healings. Christians are willing to lie to promote their false beliefs in the name of Jesus. It's my opinion that in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.