Sunday, June 16, 2013

Society chooses what morality is

Christians love to judge "the world" by thier so called standards of morality derived from a book not just full of immorality, but more barbaric than any one person could ever imagine. They proclaim the love of God for all of humanity while at the same time ignoring his wickedness. They are taught not to question their god and that they are not even worthy to judge him by our own fallible human standards. But the truth of the matter is that when you put your reverence and irrational fears aside, you can't help but judge God by what you know; the standards of men based on ones life experiences and our past history as a species. 

  1. descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a society or,
    1. some other group, such as a religion, or
    2. accepted by an individual for her own behavior or
  2. normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.
It is my opinion that when it comes to Christianity that the lines of morality are blurred and ill defined. They don't define morality as the rest of society would, they define it based on what it meant to an ancient and barbaric society that existed over two thousand years ago. Not all biblical moral codes are bad obviously. But there are some that by today's standards would be considered immoral and a travesty of justice of the most egregious kind. Their so called moral standards are not defined by what is best for society as a whole, but rather by what an imaginary being of their own creation through the writings of men has dictated. 

Their first moral code is in my opinion not even moral nor deserving of any merit since it is based on an ancient myth and the delusions of those that choose to believe those myths.

5Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.
Deuteronomy 6:5

Jesus also taught this very thing and clarified it a little so that everyone knew that when it came to anything else in life God came first.

59He said to another man, “Follow me.”But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
60Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”61Still another said, “I will follow you, Lord; but first let me go back and say goodbye to my family.”62Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”   Luke 9:59-61

The biblical god is an attention whore!

Notice that in the ten commandments the first four of God's laws are all about him! You are not to worship any other gods, make images for worship, take his name in vain, and are commanded to rest on the sabbath. How is any of this relative to morality as we define it today? The straight forward and simple answer is that it doesn't. It is because of the belief that it does by theists that non-believers in their myths are considered immoral. 

Morality does not come from the gods or some other superior being but from men who formed societies and established rules that those societies were to abide by. It is similar to our society and its laws where certain behavior is not tolerated and is punished by our judicial system where one is also judged by a jury of his peers. There are certain specific behaviors that are in general frowned upon such as murder, rape, sexual abuse of a minor, incest, specifically because they are detrimental to the health and progress of a society. 

Christians point to their god as the source of so called objective moral values. But the fact of the matter is that men created God, men wrote the Bible, and finally men recorded their ideal form of ethics and moral values for their society in their time. Any careful read of the Bible will clearly demonstrate that God himself is represented as far from behaving morally according to our own standards today. The biblical deity brutally murders and destroys all those that don't follow his ways as outlined in the scriptures. He uses the Hebrews to kill and pillage entire cultures and supposedly by his command and at times his assistance take their land by force. 

The ten plagues of Egypt are a perfect example of how God acted immorally and broke every single code he later gave man when he gave Moses the commandments. When you come to the reason that God hit Egypt with the ten plagues you can't help but wonder how anyone could call this deity moral at all. He did it to prove to his "chosen" people that he was their all powerful god and deliverer! The tale states that he purposely hardened Pharoah's heart so that he could not concede to Moses request to let the people go! Whatever happened to Pharoah's free will? Anyone in his position would have quickly conceded to Moses request in order to save himself and his people as a whole. But in this case God would not let him. If this story were true then Egypt as a nation was totally destroyed without any hope of ever recovering. History has proven that this was in fact not the case.

The New Testament depiction of God does not help his reputation anymore than the Old Testament does. In fact, it makes the good Lord seem even more immoral and cruel than he was in the past stories about him. The threats of eternal torment in hell far exceed the death penalty and bring with the concept of a place of punishment after death to a whole new level. This is especially true when you consider why you may be sent to hell in the first place. You see the first reason is because you did not accept Jesus as your Lord and savior, by not doing so your sins cannot be forgiven.

Based on the impossible standards of God there is none that is good. In other words a good man in the eyes of men is not a good man at all. This is why the Bible teaches that you are not saved by your deeds but rather by faith so that you cannot boast. So no matter how good you may have been while living your life here on earth it counts for nothing to God if you did not accept Jesus as your savior. So even good behavior and a good life is not acceptable to the Lord. In my opinion it is like sending an innocent man to jail because he refused to bow down and worship a particular god or deity as was done during the Spanish Inquisition; where many were tortured and murdered for having different religious beliefs. Nothing could be more immoral than that. 

Note: All biblical quotes are taken from the New International Version and all word definitions are from the Merriam Webster dictionary.


  1. I've often said the idea that whatever god does is fine just because he's god is simply "might makes right." Luckilly he's just pretend.
    Ever hear that quote by Richard Dawkins?
    "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

    1. Yes I have Matt and I love it! Dawkins was right on the money about that monster people choose to worship and adore even in today's so called enlightened age.

  2. The big problem is that theists have these definitions of skeptics and atheist that are not just not true. So they have no idea what we stand for and how we justify our morals.

    Just the other day I was blogging about a Christian that said skeptics don't believe in god, but instead we attribute miracles to Satan......clearly there is no understanding of what a skeptic is.

    1. It depends on what brand of Christian you are dealing with. The fundamentalist basically state that if you don't serve God then you serve Satan by default there is no middle ground. Serving Satan does not entail actual worship of Satan it is also defined as living in defiance of God.

      But as you stated theists do love to redefine common terms to suit their needs. Semantics games are common place in apologetics. It only helps them to keep a hold of the lies they subscribe to.

  3. I a couple weeks ago had a Christian comment on Youtube to me "How can the Bible be fictional? It was written before you were born?"
    Ummm... so nothing fictional was ever written before Jan 8, 1974?

    1. First I would have laughed out loud, then I would've asked him to stop kidding because I would find it hard to believe that someone could be that damn stupid!

  4. Back when you were a Christian, how did you justify the barbaric passages in the Bible?

    1. I never took a stand against God. I basically said that only God knew why he did what and because of his omniscience he can see the bigger picture. We may not understand his actions at times but they were always carried out with the best of intentions.